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发表于 2004-10-6 14:57:00
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Triangle Choke 和Guard之类的招式在格斗中恐怕没人会使，否则是自杀！
我一直认为Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu只能算一种竞技武术．其中柔术的元素太少了！与日本风格也是大相径庭．况且，他的实战效用确实很小．这点可由下看出：
Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Self-Defense Techniques
by Royce Gracie, Charles Gracie, Kid Peligro, Tom Page
是Gracie的自卫术小册子，以下是一些武术界人士的评论
Not for the real world, August 21, 2003
I know, I know, all you jiu jitsu lovers out there probably love the information in this book. I have worked in law enforcement and teach military members how to fight in real combat situations. I have practiced Judo and Jiu Jitsu for a long time. One of my instructors is a bronze medalist in Judo and is one of the finest Jiu Jitsu masters. I have worked in person with students of the ground fighting masters. These men are in fantastic shape. The techniques shown in this book can get you killed. If you get involved with a knife wielding maniac who feels no pain and you try most of the stuff in this book it will prove ineffective in most cases. I am sorry but I must tell the truth. If you like Jiu-Jitsu then practice the atemi (strikes) until you can deal with a raging fighter with a weapon. You will not get the locks and grapples to work against a knife moving at high speed. Check out some of the Close Combat masters books who have been in actual battle. Good luck, JR
This book would get you hurt, March 21, 2004
Alright, THIS IS a great book as far as photography goes. The photos are very clear and crisp and easy to understand. The techniques are easy to follow, however, I think they could have gone without the weapons section. The gun disarms would get you shot dead, with Royce having a gun to his head, then in the next shot, his right hand is on the gun and pulling it aside. No book should ever do gun defenses, because 99% of the time you'll get shot. The only reason I gave it 2 stars has to be because, while the gun and knife defenses (and stick for that matter) were very poor, the photography and easy to follow techniques were a big plus. More books should have photography like this. However, if you want a good book, try the Machado book or the one by Royler and Renzo Gracie.
How to get yourself killed fast on the street, February 25, 2003
If you want a sport art - study BJJ. If you want the best in self defense study something else. Just because a guy is a FORMER champ in the UFC doesn't mean he knows jack about what it takes to survive a violent ambush, by multiple armed attackers.
BJJ will get you killed very very quickly in any multiple opponent scenario.
The Gracies are amazing athletes and amazing competitors. the world of martial arts owes them a a lot. Unfortunately they sell their system as the greatest thing since sliced bread even to cops and soldiers. That's just plain nuts!
It shows that marketing and money is key - and saving lives is second place.
mistake..., November 3, 2002
i got to look at this book because my order got mixed up. i had purchased Renzo Gracie's BJJ Theory and Techniques, but opened the box to see Royce Gracie's Street Self Defense. Oh well, might as well take a look... no way.
I personally train in judo, which is a grappling art, a little different than jiu jutsu, but essentially most of the ground work is the same. so i have a great respect for Royce and the Gracie system because i know that it works. However, the stuff that he tries to pull off in this book is somewhat insane. For example, taking on a guy with a pipe in his hand, Royce takes the guy down, but has his arms wrapped around the attackers body with the top of his head exposed and the attacker is still holding the pipe. He tries to take on a man holding a knife by grabbing his wrist. First off, if the guy wants to cut you, he'll be stabbing at you or swinging at you. so if by some miracle you don't get your fingers cut off trying to grab his arm, then when you actually do grab his arm, the guy can just turn his own wrist and stab you in your forearm. and you can see that proximity of the knife and your wrist in the pictures. I was wondering if that was a picture of what NOT to do. then there's the gun. well, if you want to be a hero and risk getting your head blown off, go ahead. i'd just give up my wallet. i think we've all seen the movies where the good guy wrestles the gun away from someone and we're thinking "why doesn't he (the bad guy) just pull the trigger?"
the book itself is presented well enough, although there really is no structure to it. moves are just presented in the order that they thought of them, it seems. nice pretty pictures though. But i think that a big part of what they left out is what to do when you have the guy in these finishing moves. i really don't think he's gonna tap out and leave you alone if you put him in an arm bar. you can only dislocate his arm once. then what? let him up so you can repeat the technique on his other arm? sit there with his broken arm between your legs until help arrives?
basically, if you're someone with a martial arts background, then these are things that you should already be able to figure out. besides dealing with guns. in fact, you should be able to come up with better things. that's one of the reasons you've been training. to be able to handle yourself and keep a cool head during this kind of situation. If you have NO martial arts training, and you think that this book is going to save your life, please remember that Royce has been doing this a long time, and he MIGHT be able to pull it off. The better bet for you might be to carry the book around, throw it at your attacker, and run while he's trying to figure out what the hell just happened
Interesting but not practical, October 17, 2002
This book contains very good instructions on how to execute the techniques presented, so from that standpoint, it achieves the goal of being able to pass on the knowledge. But the subject matter is questionable. In most cases, it just doesn't seem practical to get tangled up with someone (potentially in the guard or even the mount) if a) the terrain is rough b) weapons are involved and c) there are multiple opponents. Rolling around on the ground over broken glass, trying to get an armbar on a guy with a knife in his hand and his friends standing around delivering soccer kicks to your head doesn't seem very effective. And any self defense system in which 90% of the techniques can be defeated by sticking your thumb in the other person's eye seems lacking. The sport of BJJ is great fun to watch and play with, but as a complete, battlefield martial art, it is lacking. |
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